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Blacksmiths players - this thread is for you to create and refine summaries for your models. If you like and use a model, and what you do with it isn't listed or the Guild you think they're great into (or risky into) isn't shown, post your thoughts below! The aim is to create a couple of sentences that sums up what a model can achieve on the pitch, to help newer Guild members get ideas.

I'll keep updating this first post with new information when people add it to this thread, so post away :)

 

Ferrite (M) -

A goal scorer and general debuffer, with good speed, Acrobatic and early playbook dodges to get her where she needs to be. Good at weakening and blunting incoming damage, but not at putting it out. Improves the chances of apprentices performing well on weakened enemies. As Captain, can accelerate the whole team and slow up the other. 

Good into: ?? // Risky into: Farmers, Corsair Fishermen, Engineers

 

Anvil (M) -

Great when set up in the midfield as a tank, with only a little healing or support needed. A good source of :KD: and Singled Out sets up devastating attacks, either for damage or tackles. Vulnerable to character plays though, so be prepared to be hit with them (and many other things). Can give the whole team an easy jump upfield early game, or skew positions and disengage a little. As Captain, can dampen moderate beater teams, but doesn't generally need a full Inf stack. 

Good into: Brewers, Butchers, Farmers, Masons // Risky into: Character Play heavy teams

 

Furnace (M) -

An all rounder with support, control and ball skills, but favours melee and scrums. Tooled up and the ability to block gang ups and crowd outs allows Blacksmiths to pick their targets better in a brawl, and remove opposing advantages. As Captain, can Take Out weaker players and hand out a lot of burning to drain and slow opponents.

Good into: Blacksmiths, Brewers, Masons // Risky into: Alchemists, Hunters

 

Hearth (M) -

Slow and support focussed, with high health but no other damage soaking abilities. Boosting melee ranges and adding net-hits makes other models far more potent, but needs keeping off the front line and using carefully. As Captain, doesn't typicaly need a big Inf stack but can provide a bubble of 2" melee that is good into loose scrums. 

Good into: ?? // Risky into: Farmers

 

Burnish (M) -

A utility model, able to use burning for damage, area denial, and clearing other conditions off friendlies. Can collect the ball and put out flame from range , making him a midfield menace. Able to ignore Character Plays for MOM, but best used sparingly on key plays. As Captain, can put out huge amounts of AoE damage (particularly against bunched opponents).

Good into: Alchemists, Brewers, Farmers, Butchers, Corsair Fishermen// Risky into: Engineers, Shark Fishermen

 

Farris (M) -

A good winger, running harassment on the opposing flanks. Able to help out apprentices with speed combined with Sentinel, and pushes to remove threats from them. Good at claiming the ball but not great at kicking, although she can kick without possessing the ball, even when knocked down. Resilient enough to tie up most players, but avoid those with early :KD: access. As Captain, gains the ability to hit more pushes and hand out more Quick Foot. 

Good into: Butchers, Masons, Farmers // Risky into: Brewers, Union, Shark Fishermen

 

Alloy (A) -

Adaptable, but at heart a footballer. Fast, good at disengaging and a solid kick makes him reliable at goal runs including on turn 1. With proper support becomes a reliable damage dealer, though not stellar. Hearth switches Alloy's adaptability on fully, so is best taken alongside her.

Good into: Low DEF/ARM // Risky into: Scrum teams (Brewers, Butchers)

 

Bolt (A) - 

A fully dedicated footballer. Two jogs every activation make him exceptionally fast even before support is added. I'm Open only adds to the potential goal run. Also can guarantee a knock down within 4" for a damage cost, enabling him to free himself from melee easily. Generally best used with Farris, as she can come to his aid if needed and her Tutelage benefits are significant. 

Good into: Low DEF teams // Risky into: Melee-centric teams 

 

Cast (A) -

Reliable damage dealer, best when set up with burning. Claiming the ball at range and debuffing TAC and DEF in melee provides good utility outside of damage. Reasonably survivable against male beaters, with Swift Strikes providing extra escape options. Doesn't have a named master, but benefits from burning so ideally Burnish and/or Furnace will be present.

Good into: Scrum teams (Brewers) // Risky into: Female teams, High ARM

 

Cinder (A) -

A great ball retriever and holder, able to tackle from 6" away, but also able to help disengage others from afar if needed. Decent kick stats and Unpredictable Movement make her good at the ball game, but she doesn't want to be right up in the front lines to do it. Furnace grants her burning, which while not essential is useful for her to have.

Good into: Low DEF/ARM teams // Risky into: High DEF/ARM teams

 

Iron (A) -

A good all rounder, decent survivability (especially with Sentinel), good at most things with a little set up. Long goal runs with Ramming Speed and Close Control, consistent access to momentous damage spiking to :mom7: with all the support options. Gets a speed boost from Ferrite, but can manage fine with other Masters.

Good into: Goal Focussed teams // Risky into: Condition teams (Esters Brewers, Alchemists)

 

Sledge (A) -

Looks like a beater, but hitting his :mom7: takes some setup and careful target selection, and flags the plan to everyone else. Being able to boost his own net-hits lets him tackle and Long Bomb the ball away, instead of the telegraphed damage. Anvil is very useful to Sledge, so ideally they're kept as a pair.

Good into: Low health/DEF/ARM teams (Morticians) // Risky into:

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Ferrite (M) -

Really useful for getting Iron in Position. Niche good first activation with multiple disarms. Normally don't give her influence, she is really bad in her influence to useful actions ratio. Just put her in cover between a few enemies and push Iron around.

Good into: Everytime you play Iron/ As Captain everytime you don't want/need someone else. // Risky into: Never risky, but almost never really good.

 

Anvil (M) -

Useful CPs, but not good with lots of terrain because the directly toward goal post. Makes his team faster, but really has little use in most scrums with his 1" melee.

Good into: medium damage output teams as Captain// Risky into: everything fast/ -move /lots of terrain.

 

Furnace (M) -

Perfect in the middle of the scrum, can do everything there. Shoot goals, tackle, KD and -Arm, sometimes get the last lifepoints off an enemy. 2" melee. Tooled Up for the beginning. A little Control with legendary and burning. Really good Legendary for his role.

Good into: everything which wants to the middle and isn't super fast. As Captain for a better control of the scrum// Risky into: super fast.

 

Hearth (M) -

Sometimes useful in the scrum, most of the time inf. battery with the occasionally KD. Good legendary for gumming things up together with other masters. Really lets Cinder shine, good with her apprentice.

Good into: everything, you need to use masters // Risky into: nothing, just leaver her behind a little if you think she will die fast.

 

Burnish (M) -

Some ranged pressure, really good playbook. Good with Tooled Up. Should be your Captain for making use of the 5 Inf cap at the beginning. Together with Furnace the masters who do something for their inf. Often good ballholder in cover, thanks to plating and good def stats.

Good into: Hunter and Mortis as Captain, bunched up teams w/o much tough hide// Risky into: nothing particulary.

 

Farris (M) -

Just get her into cover an gum the opponent up. Job for all masters, but she is best at it, with 10" sprint with free attack, 2" melee, arm 3. At the start she makes your playmakers faster. Legendary occasionally golden, as is her melee zone kick. She or furnace should make every of your 6. She for speed (f.e. into Counter Charge or fast teams), Furnace into scummier teams.

Good into: everything, but be wary of top notch burst damage// Risky into: high burst damage.

 

Bolt (A) - 

trap, only good for one goal and skulking near enemy goal. Farris has more important things to do than keeping him alive.

Good into: receiving and pillow fisted enemy, goal keeper // Risky into: Close Control, KD

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Spent time typing out stuff on Word, can't paste it into this box ;(

Edit: Cheers h3m3 wouldn't even have thought of that. Seems copy/Pastes chooses when to work from Word for me.

 

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I'll give it a bash, used them enough to contribute something Feel free to pick and choose the info as I’ve likely done too much :D

Ferrite (M) - (edited)

Goal scorer and debuffer. With her speed and ability to acrobat she is able to get to where she wants, if there's some resistance she has early dodges on her playbook to make it even easier. When she isn't scoring goals she is very much a harassment piece onto some of our armoured or mid to high TAC oppoents, able to bring them down a small peg that our team's ARM might help lessen the brunt. With low TAC players she can usually shut them down unless they charge (Like Mist for example, I had fun with him one game :D) which can be helpful and with the debuff results on 1 (with MOM no less) you don't need to cringe too much on high DEF. But outwith this she isn't a damage dealer especially against blacksmith levels of ARM.

As Captain- Ferrite CAN capitalise on the full 5 INF (you need it for a first activation goal if the situation pans out well) but usually after that effort she will hang back down to her usual printed 3 INF and harass whilst waiting to be used to score again. The big reason is the turn where you can give your team Tong and Cheek to allow us to get up the board. This will likely get popped early but if you don't NEED it, save it and you will likely find a situation you wish you did. Typically she will likely be your captain as her Legendary is more the straightforward and beneficial of the lot which is good as she does well into pretty much all teams but of course there are guilds that will make it harder for her.

As a Player- Ferrite is a good definition of the Master style play for Blacksmiths. She supports. However instead of buffing our guys she will hamper the enemy to allow even unbuffed apprentices a chance to do what they like to do, like sledge's/Iron's damage etc. Her kick stat is also there for a reason, there's no better support than getting thirds of your score with a kick.

Good into: Into all Guilds (See Captain section) Risky into: Farmers, Engineers, (Corsair)Fishermen

Furnace (M) – (edited)

Generall arounder that is skewed to melee. Furnace is the team's source of Tooled Up which with some of the highest potential damage can be pretty great. He is also able to turn rather dangerous Scrums into many duels with One at a Time Lads, allowing indevidual skill to decide who wins fights. This can be great with the Blacksmith's ability to buff and debuff, allowing dire situations to potentially survivable situations.

As Captain - Can reliably beat down lower health players or Coup de grâce players using the full 5 INF. Giving a swafe of Burning on legendary can help a lot as well against fast teams or tanky teams for a bit of bleed damage (if not literally)

As a Player - Only source of tooled up, good for himself most of the time but as a non-captain better giving it out to others as they will likely benefit more. Getting to Arm 3 helps hold down the scrum well. Reliable ARM stripping is great as well.

Good into: Blacksmiths, Brewers, Masons  Risky into: Alchemists, Hunters

Anvil (M) – (edited)

Very suitable to his name, Anvil will take midfeild and with a bit of TLC from you (Taking Breathers etc) and players (One at a Time Lads etc) he can tank a LOT of damage. He is only DEF 2 so character plays are pretty much guaranteed which will likely shut him down in some fashion (condition damage, knockdown etc). But whilst active he can Knockdown like the best of him and our only source of Singled Out, which for our High Damage dealers is great, but even allows better tackles (like from Cinder's Hot Shot).

As a Captain – He doesn’t really do much with the full 5 INF or really wants it, likely a waste unless he is REALLY in the scrum which isn’t likely (opponents tend to use as little as they need to tie him down). Tough hide to the team is situationally good but can help dampen a few teams.

As a Player – Like most Masters he’s a lump of a support, can do enough with no INF by just being a strong sentinel and KD counter attacks. Whilst the Iron is Hot can be used early game for even more upfeild prescence or a cheeky disengage but timing later in the game can be a bit difficult but if you can see it and your oppoent can't? could swing a game just that bit more in your favour. Despite being good in a scrum, he isn't the hardest to hit so farming MOM off hit is what WILL happen (no ifs or buts about it)

Good into: Brewers, Butchers, Farmers, Masons Risky into: All teams (see end of player notes)

Burnish (M) –

Utility piece and splash damage dealer. Can punish your opponent grouping up and in early turns screen areas off with a wall of flame. He is also good at removing conditions but you will take burning for the privilege. As he is a midfielder Kill the Ball can be a cheeky surprise to pull out as well if you need to reach a stuck ball. Has the gimmick of ignoring Character plays and give it out, but can be a MOM trap but situationally handy.

As a Captain – the 5 INF allows the "mega" turn of 3 AOEs, 12 damage on A player or potentially 28, 36 skies the limit, IF the opponent bundles up badly. Becomes able to use 2 after legendary which can still be potent. Giving out his Armour plating is VERY situational and hard to time and resource intensive to keep using.

As a Player – Mid-field utility who can reach out with his flame belch. With a good kick he can be a good middle man to pass the ball about or kill it to move it about entirely. His condition removal is good but loses usefulness if the enemy only use burning and X as their conditions as you will mostly be getting rid of only 1. But as a free condition remover is still decent.

Good into: Brewers, Farmers, Butchers (Corsair)Fishermen, Alchemists Risky into: (Shark)Fishermen, Engineers  

Hearth (M) – (edited)

Granny does what Grans tend to do. Not move very much and give out helping hands when she can. Very master like in her support. Although having the highest health in our roster, but not a tank as damage is 1:1 as no tough hide and ARM 2 will only do so much with DEF 2.

As a Captain – She COULD use the 5 INF but rarely will she need it. She could give out 2" reach, give out net hits and KD someone but how often will you need that? Giving the Team 2" reach can be very good but as it is a 6" aura this is for scrums which means you might not even need the range.

As a Player – Reliable KD battery and great to buff our great but 1" melee players. Can make Cinder a good range tackler or Sledge reach hit his 7 DMG or help it wrap well after it. Getting 3" melee can help get unexpected crowd out bonuses or KD a bigger batch of players. Because she is mostly giving out buffs and KDing where she can, she is good into ALL teams, but she is in the same boat as Anvil in that due to her defenses she will be farmed off of and not as resiliant as Anvil so equal parts risky into ALL teams.

Good into: All Teams Risky into: All teams, particularly Farmers (I found out) 

Ferris (M) – (edited)

A good outrider style player who runs the flanks to harass and deal with other outflank players. With Sentinel and good pushes she can get into places to run in and help Apprentices. She’s also good at stripping the ball and although the poorest kick stat just needs to sometimes get the ball away from where it is, and kicking whilst KD’d can be a surprise as well.

As a Captain – She doesn’t need the 5 INF, she could give out a couple of quick foots turn 1 but then you could do that with less cost with Ferrite and hit more players (if not all). Her support style play means she will push a lot but you can only do that so many times before out of reach or loses need.

As a Player – Very utilitarian despite her intimidating presence. With the ability to get a weaker charge (Sprint with basic TAC) can be helpful to spend her 3 INF a bit better. A quick response Sentinel is great though more often enough likely helping Bolt whilst he’s down the opponent’s throat. Due to her speed and resilience (mostly due to Armour) she can usually target players that will struggle to get much into her, either tying that player up for a bit or pull other players in to help, but nothing stops most players than a KD so make sure to pick non-KD or high playbook KD players.

Good into: Butchers, Masons, Farmers  Risky into: Brewers, Union (Shark)Fishermen 

Iron (A) –

A good all-rounder despite how his stats might indicate. The more survivable apprentice with a bit of help from Sentinel but has tough hide as well. Can fit into any situation with the appropriate set up, football? Give him speed and get to goal and he will get it, this guy can rocket up to a healthy 10"/14" with all the speed buffs applied to him and with Ramming Speed not many folks can get in his way. Coupled with Close Control can hold a ball well. A source of 7 DMG but easier access to a "consistent" 2 and 4 DMG profile, as such Tooled up, low ARM and whatever can lay a beating down.

Master Benefit – Iron "only" gets "Get over here!" from Ferrite, but that is just another tool to get him up the field well. That said, because it is ONLY that he doesn’t NEED ferrite and can happily team up with the other masters no bother.

Good into: Low DMG teams, football teams Bad into: Armour ignoring players, Condition teams

Cinder (A) – (edited)

A nice range support with arguably the best range shot in the game. Thanks to Hot Shot, Cinder can make a single Melee attack 6". This is great as it is essentially a range play with a playbook worth of results that benefits from melee style buffs, but of course means she suffers melee style debuffs as well so watch out for crowd outs etc. But does mean she can tackle a ball at range (with help of Hearth for instance), disengage from a high DEF target (shoot someone out of reach with a lower DEF) or however else her playbook can help you. Also, our Unpredictable movement player (again with Hearth’s help…) can hold a ball safely with a decent kick stat to get it places.

Master Benefit - Cinder gains burning to her damage results, which can be alright, means she doesn’t get much benefit from Furnaces Legendary however. Thus she doesn’t NEED furnace ut you will likely see them paired up anyway to capitalize on the burning.

Good into: Low Def/ARM teams, Low Melee range teams Bad into: High DEF/ARM teams

Sledge (A) – (edited)

Notable for being a beater but inside sparks a bit of jack of all trades. Well known for being the Piledriver 7 DMG machine and although he CAN do that, takes a bit of set up, right opponent and

comes accompanied with the "I’M GOING TO CHARGE THIS CHARACTER!" warning sign to your opponent. Out with his fighting potential he can use Piledriver (from tutelage or otherwise) to get a good tackle and then Longbomb (from tutelage or otherwise) it to someone reasonably well.

Master Benefit – Sledge really likes Anvil around. Getting Tutelage is a great boon to his playstyle be it for damage or football that really maxes out his 3INF.

Good into: Low Health/DEF/ARM teams. Bad into: Being focused

Cast (A) –

Damage dealer who capitalizes on our ability to produce burning, whilst having some handy debuffs and utility. With a bit of help from tooled up and a burning target she has a nice non-MOM 3 DMG on a single result so with 4INF that’s a pretty reliable 12 DMG output before you go up the book. She can lower the TAC and DEF whilst in combat and can strip the ball at range. With Charmed [Male] she can be quite defensive especially with a bit of help from Sentinel. Swift strikes allow her to get out of fights making her slippery with a good kick result to boot.

Master Benefit – Cast is the only apprentice that doesn’t have a by name Master benefit as she gets +1 DMG from burning targets. As such she literally doesn’t need Burnish to be around. But she likely will be or with Furnace or even more likely both.

Good into: Scrums, Burning targets Bad into: Female players, High ARM

Alloy (A) – (edited)

He can tailor himself to suit but is a great footballer at heart. Naturally fast, ability to disengage well and a good kick stat allows him to get to where he wants to reasonably scot free. He can turn 1 goal well if not threaten the ball heavily. His damage is a bit unreliable without a bit of help, either through his master benefit or from the array of Blacksmith support.

Master Benefit – Hearth allows Alloy to tailor as it allows him to pick from 2" melee, +1/0" kick or Anatomical Precision. Really you can ignore the 2" melee if you don’t need Alloy to go first and allow Hearth to give it to him (plus a bit of Instruction for some Net hits if you want). You will likely see the two together and regularly on the table.

Good into: Low DEF/ARM players (for Melee output especially) Bad into: Scrums. 

Bolt (A) –

Dedicated footballer and good at it too. Bolt’s unique ability to jog twice can really get him places with or without a bit of help. A Ferrite Legendary and Ferris Quick Foot will see him being able to JOG 16" or 18" if you throw in a sprint. Being able to I’m Open allows even more speed and with a lot of good footballers can expect this reliably to get the pass. Shoemarang is a great utility piece if not with a short range, bouncing this off yourself (for 2 DMG) or someone else to get a KD on a high DEF target can free himself up to go for the only destination, the enemy goal.

Master Benefit – "Suffers" the same as Sledge in that Tutelage is too good to pass up so he will always want to be paired up with Ferris. She even is the only person more likely to come to his aid should enemies be gunning for him.

Good into: Low Def Players and even High Def players with Shoemarang Bad into: Being engaged (in general) with a Melee focused player

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Pretty much, Half your players HATE them as they are weak apprentices and with low DEF even with good ARM High DMG players can hit those desired results. Coupled with not a lot of defensive tech besides ARM we aren't mitigating DMG much (unless you have a Tough Hide turn with Anvil) so there is that as well.

That and I did do this entirely at my desk at work so thought wasn't entirely focused :D

Edit: Yeah I've went back to the Masters and fleshed them out like I started doing the more I did yesterday. Removed or rephrased a lot of the High DMG bad into's as well really, getting hit for lots of DMG is bad for most players :D

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11 hours ago, WhiteYin said:

Pretty much, Half your players HATE them as they are weak apprentices and with low DEF even with good ARM High DMG players can hit those desired results.

I think this is where you play a very cagey 'ranged' game using Burnish and Cinder. Threaten crowd outs with Furnace etc to reduce the enemies effectiveness if they come into you.

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As a quick note, it’s helpful (for me) if people can mention guilds when they’re saying what models are good/bad into. I’m thinking of newer players who don’t know what guilds do what yet, and may not be drafting initially :)

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On 06/04/2018 at 7:36 PM, Mako said:

As a quick note, it’s helpful (for me) if people can mention guilds when they’re saying what models are good/bad into. I’m thinking of newer players who don’t know what guilds do what yet, and may not be drafting initially :)

Someone with half a thought would have done that without being told lol

I'll give it a think and update tomorrow. 

Though I always over think who to use against who so perhaps NOT the best person to ask 

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I had a Butchers player tell me yesterday that he had been beaten up badly by a Burnish led team. The rings of fire gave him a hard time. I suppose the same might be true of any team that likes to bunch up to murder you. Corsair Fish and Brewers spring to mind.

I was taken apart by Butchers & C Fish yesterday and with hindsight would have done better with him in the 6.

I am still very green in working out match ups. That is why I am giving other peoples opinions.

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Edited my post again to place guilds in as good or risky into.

Just for Masters, I'm not sure really how to go about doing it for apprentices, purely as they are the workhorse of he guild and as such you need to give the right support against each guild.

Sadly though I don't think there's much more I can do. Hopefully it helps and if folk want to use it and change it or whatever and it helps great.

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That was a lot of info to parse into the top post :D

(That's my excuse as to why it's taken me weeks to get round to it, anyway :P )

Great work all!

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Played Cast today with Burnish and Furnace in the line up. Missed with the shield throw once. But against burning targets she is awesome. A rash decision slowed her to take out a fully stacked Fillet. (3 damage on a counter attack!) Topped out the end of the day with a snap back goal for my 3rd and final win of the day, 8" sprint & 4/6 kickB)

What a star.

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