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Fertilizer and pain response timing

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Hi Goupil,

No, Peck would not be able to use paint response before fertilizer. 

Fertilizer triggers during the check for taken out step of making an attack, which happens before the step to check for abilities that trigger off damage. Which is also the case for character plays. This is from the comprehensive timing charts at the end of the season 3 rulebook. 

Pain response triggers at step 4, which is after the check for taken out step. 

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7 hours ago, Jhokalups said:

the check for taken out step of making an attack, which happens before the step to check for abilities that trigger off damage. 

Pain response triggers at step 4, which is after the check for taken out step. 

Who said Pain Response triggers at Step 4? It triggers when Peck suffers damage during an attack, which happens when Playbook results are resolved at Step 2.5. The Take Out and Fertilizer is/are resolved at Step 3.

Or maybe I misunderstand the wording on Cocky?

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Pain Response occurs when Peck suffers damage, which occurs at Step 2.5 of both the Attack and Character Play sequences.

Fertiliser occurs when Peck suffers the taken-out condition during the Activation Phase, which is Step 3 of both the Attack and Character Play sequences.

As such Pain Response may be used before Fertiliser but cannot be used after.

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