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  1. IHatethePuppy

    Player Choices into Fish

    I play a lot of games into corsair fish, like a silly amount and I want to be able to better articulate the choices I make into the match up so I'm writing up this piece. Any amount of CC will be appreciated and I'll try to answer any questions to the best of my ability. FIshermen and their options- (Assuming the line up is shark,corsair,tentacles,gutter,greyscales,hag,jac,siren,vsiren,sakana) Shark- Shark is not the captain choice I believe any fishermen player would make in morticians he has a VERY linear game plan that is easy for us to disrupt with our control elements and very little way to switch it up efficiently. Silence Obulus and Casket combine to make him a very very sad boy. Corsair- The captain you'll see 90% of the time drag is very good at isolating our squishy models if you allow them to, and easy knock downs mean a combination of him and gutter will kill almost any of our models he can catch (besides casket) in one turn- and the combination of sturdy, close control, and tough hide make him extremely annoying to interact with outside of character plays. Tentacles- In my opinion one of the strongest mascots in the game, the combination of close control and a 2/6 kick makes him great at holding the ball and giving it to who needs it when it's time for scoring. Blind is a great tool for corsair to have in his control tool kit. Gutter- I consider gutter one of obulus' worst nightmares she can catch him with her quick movement and can drag him in while beating up a model like casket or ghat that makes it easy for her to hit her drag. She'll be in every corsair line up you play against. Hag- A fantastic threat range extender and great at breaking up and re positioning scrums, my most common fish opponent has lately stopped using her against me- I'm pretty sure this is because fear doesnt work if the puppet is attacking her- making her a bit of an easy take out and momentum farm if she ever ends up invested in the scrum. Greyscales- A good striker that's hard to pin down- sometimes I see him sometimes I don't generally only taken if they feel like they need another striker after sakana. Jac- Goad, and his heroic are important control pieces- he's very good at breaking up a scrum and tough hide makes him relatively difficult to take out. The local fish player and myself see him as a good way to break away from being bogged down by casket. Siren- Another important control piece, beautiful makes it very hard for us puppet master her without giving away obulus- lure in conjuction with drag can create positioning nightmares and seduced can strip the ball off of our models very easily. V Siren- Generally not as good into us as Siren 1 but dread gaze can be very annoying when we're trying to hit things. Escape fate also makes her very difficult to take out. Sakana- An all around good striker that requires very little set up and has some nice defensive tech with poised. He's like a mini shark. They'll take him almost any game for the two inch reach, the weak point, and the goal pressure he can provide. Keep an eye out for poor positioning of him though, because he can make a very juicy puppet master target if he's starting the move in cover. Morticians My line up (post rats) Obulus, Scalpel, Dirge, Graves, Casket, SIlence, Ghast, Skulk, Pelage, Brainpan and memory Scalpel- Lets get her out of the way. I have her in my roster solely for kicking off against blacksmiths. She's a really fun model and isn't really terrible into alot of stuff just generally worse than obulus. That being said The only game into corsair I have tried with her was lost 10-12 so maybe there's merit I haven't seen. Oblulus- Good ol' obby. This is the sort of match up where early you want to use puppet master to set up a nicely positioned scrum early then have him stay on the fringes of it and go for goal runs when the opportunity is there, using puppet master to strip the ball off of corsair or tentacles is a great way to get around close control. Rigor mortis in this match up is generally best used when it'll swing an important momentum race or when you need to heal several models in one activation and can't do so other wise. Dirge- The little guy's stock has gone down since sic 'em has gone away but he's still miles better than vileswarm. Use him to block drag lanes and provide crowd outs/gang ups. Graves- I never leave home without the good doctor 2" reach, a decent playbook for stripping the ball, beating down, or re positioning models, tooled up, he really does do almost everything in this match up he likes to poke around the scrum with his reach and tool up casket or memory for take outs. He can also take a few influence and turn it into some bleeds in the scrum which can go a long way against some fish models. Be on the look out for sweet spots for consistent scything blows. It won't happen often but when it does it's super value. Casket- The other model I play in every match up- he is a fantastic tar pit being near unkillable for alot of factions. Heavy burdening an out of position corsair can be back breaking and his rough ground can be a super annoying momentum tax if the scrum is positioned poorly for them. Trying to casket time some one (if possible gutter) is of course very strong and a tooled up casket or memory last activation followed up by a first activation casket will do it to most models in fish. Casket timing corsair is honestly not very realistic but I have done it once (and yes it feels very good :p) SIlence- I like Silence when kicking off. Kicking off with silence and keeping him 12 from corsair allows you to during your first activation fire blast directly in front of corsair then re position how you'd like to decrease corsairs turn one pressure. Corsair is a fantastic tucked/shut out target and as such I always allocate at least one to silence to threaten to do exactly that. Which can mess very hard with how the corsair player needs to do their activation. Just like in every match up hes an annoying control piece. Just be careful with his positioning because he can be an easy take out for them. When deciding who/when to tuck or shut out its important to note that ALOT of their killing potential is tied up in two activations in corsair and gutter. Ghast- Ghast takes silence's spot when receiving he's caskets Scrum buddy. 2" reach a knock down on two and fear are all things fish find pretty annoying. Jamming him and casket into a scrum properly can force the corsair player's game plan from a 1-4 to a 2-2 which is significantly more difficult to do against a team that has obulus messing around with where the ball is. Skulk- A goalie model would seem great into the "scoring" team however I don't like him into corsair. While horrific odour can mess with their goal runs and lightning reflexes can be a pain for greyscales he doesn't bring enough to the table to make it in this match up. Pelage- While she is a murderer that can realistically bust through corsair's tough hide while tooled up our goal isn't a lot of take outs in the match up, if they happen great but I prefer not to have a model in the list who commits entirely to that, so she doesn't provide enough for our game plan to validate a spot over other options. Brainpan and Memory- Brainpan and memory are fantastic in this match up- their flexibility really shines in it. memory can be used early to block drag lanes and is uniquely good at hunting down hag or greyscales while tooled up. Their unique way of movement and "One, Two!" Can also be used to help them escape scrums once they're done providing their crowd ups and gang ups to allow them to set up their goal runs. A memory parked in front the opponent's goal is a snap shot machine, with a 90% success rate with bonus time! These are my thoughts on fish relatively unedited thanks for the read and leave any CC! Thanks
  2. The hunters and the morticians. Some back door dealings have been made. Obvious reached out to the hunters for some help. They obliged in exchange for the return of their sister in arms "minx". In the end it was a close one. Egret scores a goal, and seenah is the head of take outs. This time he was in able to get that. He hid be hind his spook bretheren. The morticians took the win with a goal from the arterial bleed giver graves. Hearne took a final stand to make the shoot but it seems luck was with the mitts as graves hooked one in around the scion of the sunfather. I
  3. kaladorm

    How to Graves

    I noticed from some of the research that malladin.ben has been conducting, that Graves is overwhelmingly taken in Morticians teams. On top of that, some of the anecdotes I have heard on the forum here is along the lines of 'Graves does everything you need him to' or 'reliable piece'. I am struggling with Graves rarely seeming to do what I need him to. I am still learning Morts so there must be something I'm missing, and need the hive mind guidance. Here are my experiences so far: -'ves No knockdown Difference between a non-momentous 1 and momentous 2 often makes me a sad panda No momentous 3 at top of playbook Often fails to finish off a model (unless last activation and bleed) +'ves Tooled up bot 2in melee Good charge range (but see point above about failing to be a finisher) Low tackle Decent kick I see Graves as one of the fightier members of the team but he fails to deliver for me. This makes me think that he is better as a support piece, only ever taking 1 or 2 influence. Should he play more like Shank where he hovers around the edge of the scrum and dives in to try and finish someone off or steal a ball and kick it away? For the first time, as I write this post, I notice he is a winger....
  4. iaipunk

    Why not Graves?

    I know opinions vary, but most people seem to think there are better guys than Graves (or VGraves) for Morticians. I'm not sure that anyone has said WHO is better, much less why they think he's so poor. Can someone shed some light on this for me?
  5. He's been the player I seem to have the easiest time replacing. It's a combination of providing only 1 influence, and seeming to be optimized for spreading damage around, rather then killing a player. Does anyone find much value in wacking multiple people to turn 1 influence into 5 damage on multiple players, rather than stacking influence on Obulus and outright killing a player? Have you guys made him work, and if so, how?
  6. Devils Reject

    Devils Morticians ( & Friends )

    Hey Guys, thought I would get some pictures up of my Morticians I painted a little while back, a few of their Union mates joined them for the team photo! Tell me what you think?
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