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  1. I just wanted to confirm that Fathom use her heroic and dodge from Caskets Foul odour? Relevant rules: If this model is within 1" of one or more pieces of terrain it may make a 4" dodge Enemy models treat this aura as rough terrain.
  2. Right, so how does fathoms heroic interact with skatha and therons abilities to place terrain? It says the aoes are fast terrain or forest terrain, and are pieces of terrain not an aura.
  3. With the changes in S4 to superior strategy being friendly model - could i please get clarification of how this interacts with Avarice & Greed. 1) Does it provide both of them with a extra activation, as they activate simultaneously? Who is allocated the influence? The target model or both? 2) If it only provides the target model an extra activation and both have not yet activated that turn does the other model have to use its activation as well for their first activation or can it hold it over to the 2nd (and does this depend if greed is on the pitch or not?) 3) If only one gets an activation what happens with the other model during the second activation as it says they activate simultaneously and they can not do so?
  4. Surely you can just push the model out of the aura and then apply the damage so that it doesn't trigger. As per the clarification on reinforced plating
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    Locus the great?

    The rules as currently written support it being measured from the Locus model with the ball path being taken from the actual balls location. Page 15 states ". The model in possession is considered to be the current location of the ball." Locus remote control states " this model may may a kick as if it were in possession of the ball. The starting point of the ball path for this kick is the current location of the ball instead of this model"
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    Spending MP

    def stance wouldn't stack with itself as its for the duration of the charge. But the dodges are considered "actions" in the rulebook as it states on page 23 at the top. Technically the above poster seems to be correct despite this possibly not being the intent
  7. Why tapper and not esters? Seems like its a good game for ester with buffs for decimate and able to blunt sweeping charge attacks etc.
  8. Cheers Vince, i certainly agree they are strong but i think other guilds have more tools to deal with them now. Their worst match up used to be fish but removing a+g helped. I suspect it will now be hammer. (I actually agree with you in that in the top tier). Im intrigued by your general consensus of where rats place?? I think they have a very high skill cap and as you said are a hell of a lot of fun to play. Timmy and I have both been having a lot of success with them. Have you guys spoken about them on another podcast or is there a reason you rate them as you do?
  9. Really enjoyed this guys especially botts dying when rundas was up 😂 I actually preferred this format to the podcast, hard to pin down why. You mentioned it but then didn't actually get around to talking about it. How do you think the falconers impact hunters and their tier placing?
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    Vs Farmers

    I tend to counter pick. Obulus seems a good choice as he can puppet thresher away and farmers arent great at holding the ball so he'd be my captain choice.....although i have found a lot more success with scapel and v.hemlock into match ups i didnt expect. She is a huge goal scoring and take out threat. B+m and dirge also seem solid shouts for reasons stated but B+m is also more of a reactionary pick based on their choices. I do like v.graves but this means you intend to fight them which is generally a bad idea as huge hp pools and you have lots of non mom damage in general.
  11. Yes as its movement even though you have returned to the same place. This will trigger effects such as minefiels, skulks ability etc though
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    V. Honour is Stronger Than You Think

    I tried 3 games using rats into variation of the list using ploughman and honour. 18inf a turn and that turned into approx 11mom a turn. Fallow and grange do a lot of work and the fact you an power her each turn in the maintenance phase means that running over harvest markers etc doesnt really help at all. My opponent had 5harvests every turn even with taking all 5. This cost one or 2 inf max. The biggest problem is holding the ball against fast scoring teams and in this match up jackstraw is probably required. That said it was very easy for my opponent to threaten take outs and use the ball to extend ranges. Tried variations with tater for the counter charge and harrow instead of grange. I also think the skill gap between my opponent and myself played a part. Id certainly consider it into brawler or 2-2 teams and perhaps look at the line up into rats, shark etc.
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    When do we take Mataagi over Minerva?

    I feel people are not factoring in eyespy for your main damage dealers. For me minerva is much more useful in a game where you expect to be fighting rather than playing at range. Jeacar with effective tac 8 and anatomical plus potential harrier is a scary prospect...additionally you have snared and kd in the team. Activation order issues aside....one advantage is eyespy cant be removed unlike conditions
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    Playing into new Hunters

    Try original siren and lure to remove one of the obstacles
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    V. Honour is Stronger Than You Think

    I do find it funny that there is a reliance on including harrow in every list, whilst i agree tooled up can be strong i have found that farmers (grange especially) dont need to rely on it as much as other teams. Harrow is the one i drop from most of my lists as he has the most victim like stats and someone that i find contributes very little over all after the first turn when he tends to not be near the captain. I actually agree with aarons team selection as a viable one, and millstone may also be a flex slot depending on what you are playing into....but i tend to almost count her as a auto include for goal defence. I also think that you can consider dropping jackstraw for ploughman which nets you 5 harvest markers a turn if you so wish for little inf cost. (Activation order dependant) 1 for rough ground, grange =2 harvests, millstone = 2 harvests, honour =2 harvests for the cost of 1 inf overall woth honour actually being able to legendary and then still create harvests for the team after allocating inf for a net of 5inf 2 harvest markers at the cost of 2 inf The other lists you have put with harrow in (typical thresher list as an example) starts with 12 inf, and gains 4harvests at a cost of 2inf. So overall the team efficiency and ability to turn the harvests inf and then into mp after turn 1 is stronger than that line up. You should be able to play turn 2 onwards with 18inf a turn without plot cards counting in that.
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    Updraft Duration

    My understanding is its a timing thing when using these interactions. Starts in harrier and uses updraft for a standard jog or sprint with +2speed and then takes flight to be able to make a 5" standard jog which has the flight rule and ignores terrain penalties/bonuses for the move (also bases if he can clear them). Total possible move based on these two rules is 14" and costs 2inf.
  17. I realise that this has been answered in this thread: However, i believe that the assumptions used for this ruling were incorrect and wanted this clarified as it comes up often in games. I believe that this was ruled based on assumptions for things like minefield and things which require movement of one form or another into, which this does not. Lightening reflexes state it takes effect when "an enemy model ends a dodge within the aura". A dodge of 0" fulfills the criteria to trigger as it has ended within the aura and the criteria does not state any requirements around moving/advancing. In my game on stream at Vengeance my opponent triggered a push/dodge result, pushing me and dodging 0" to avoid this based on the previous ruling. Could this please be re looked at?
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    Lightening reflexes vs dodge 0"

    Thank you for correcting me on lightning vs lightening, duly noted. Typing in the spare minutes between other tasks on my phone but no real excuse. You have been consistant in stating that a dodge of 0" does not trigger lightning reflexes however i am trying to understand a rules basis for this decision rather than just the statement as all previous posts have related to movement in one form or another. Further, I am in full agreement with this, my contention is that a dodge reposition of 0" fulfills the criteria when it ends within 6" to trigger as a dodge was taken even if there is no movement. There is no stipulation in distance or any movement as a trigger for this trait. I apologise if I am labouring the point, and im certainly not meaning to come across as argumentative but the key part seems to not be answered in any previous responses.
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    Lightening reflexes vs dodge 0"

    Thanks Henry, for clarity are you stating that a dodge reposition of 0" which ends within 6" then does not trigger lightening reflexes?
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    Lightening reflexes vs dodge 0"

    I also found this thread which unfortunately doesn't seem to address the (same) question either as the answer given is again around "movement". And whilst i understand your point Ben, i believe the distinction here is the difference between moving and ending which hasn't been covered previously due to the wording on this rule. You elect to take a dodge of 0". As you havent moved this doesn't trigger traps and anything that triggers from movement. Which has been ruled previously and is consistant with wording for the triggers on those rules. Lightening reflexes however triggers from ending the dodge which you have done, as you have selected the dodge result and a dodge is from 0 - 1" depnding on the amount of >s. It is irrelevant the distance or lack of moved as long as the model ends within 6".
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    VHemlocke Play Test

    I find she works really well with bonesaw and gets him up field without needing to dodge from his passes. Confidence on him for the charge to goal as he is normally in position allows for unecpected arrival and uaually a wrap to a dodge, meditate and goal.
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    The Casual Mortician

    Id still be tempted with casket over ghast....to be fair ghast isnt even in my 10. Also i find silence an odd choice but you made it work. Scapel with v.hemlock and tooled up is awesome, and utilising casket to slow or punish people coming in (heavy burden and blind are great together). I also use bonesaw especially when receiving but i tend to use the puppet to get the pass back from as it over the turn position aggressively and not really give much away. Glad you finally beat the brewers
  23. Does this include the dilema damage from Pelage's cloak of rats? I would assume yes but its a bit of a weird one because its a) its a trait and not a play or legendary your opponent chose the damage option not the active player. Rising anger does say damaged by an enemy model and doesn't specify how and technically the damage comes from Pelage. Clarification would be good.
  24. I hate painting as im rubbish and never have the time as im also really slow and much better at the game so prefer to actually play....that said, im actually in agreement here. I think there should be a painting requirement the only exception being for models released at that event. Ie ratcatchers on release day or exiles for vengeance. This for me also translates into an issue when streaming competative games. Imagine 2 morts playing and both unpainted plastics.