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    Season 4 results

    After playing many different guilds for quite some time, I have become intrigued with season 4 farmers. So far I have had success with both captains and currently sitting at a 5-0 record. I have played alchs twice butchers twice and morticians once. Setting up HM is easier than ever with the buffs to ploughman and jackstraw and the reapers really do a lot without having to remove them too often. The teams I have had success into have also been glass cannon types so I am wondering how I will do into Brewer hefty lineups and a lot of tough hide. Just seeing what everyone else thought. Happy Planting!

    Season 4 results

    Went to an 11 man tournament this weekend and went 2-1 First round beat Alchs (thresher, peck, millstone, jack, tater, ploughman vs smoke, naja, Mercury, venin, compound, and crucible) I kicked off and made it difficult for him to score turn 1 and set up a killed on venin. Killed 2 models then he scores and I get the ball to thresher for a 6 point activation. The scatter goes perfectly to let smoke get in and out to score another goal. Then I will the last model to clean it up. Felt pretty in control the whole game. 2nd was Mort's (thresher buckwheat tater windle, ploughman and jack vs obs, dirge, graves1, cosset, casket, and vet hemlock) I kicked so I might tempt him to not play scalpel and it worked. He tried to set up a casket time, but I had enough models with KD early that walking away wasn't really an option. I was able to set the scrum and use mow down 4 or 5 times on turn 2 which really turned the game in my favor (hot dice here). Was able to kill several models and put a lot of damage out there with thresher and then heal up with all the momentum. He gets a goal to get to 6 and tater run away from his newly.returned squad while I set up the last kill and goal run by jack. Last game was hunter Same line up for farmers (change in peck)and skatha Fahad chaska, bear, zarola, vet minx He kicked I killed it off to the opposite side with peck. So at least it wouldnt be turn 1 goal. Managed distances really well I feel like. Tater charged minx and put a hurt on her but she was able to put blessing on chaska to get a rap to double push double push boom box tater off the pitch.... (Broken af if you ask me) 6-0 down I kill Fahad to make sure I start next turn. Kill skatha and set the scrum (jack is holding the ball in cover but close enough to goal run when he felt like it.) Kill the cat again and starting to take over. Thresher goes down to the bear making it 8-6. Bear uses his last influence to get to jack crowded out twice and in cover and gets to mf'ing KD. Scatter is as bad as it gets. Skatha scores next turn. Hunters are tough right now. They are so efficient and wierdly tanky. Great tournament and farmers are a lot of fun!



    Season 4 results

    Went 2-1 in a local tourney getting 3rd. Played against alchs, morts, and hunters. Those hunters were rough even after feeling like I played a really good game. I'll post my write ups later.

    Season 4 results

    I have been looking into ways to get at esters (theoretical because no brewer players in meta) but I have thought that Harrow would be a good answer. I didn't really think about it for alchs because my buddy played midas into me and I was able to go 2inch murder group and not worry about conditions.

    Simultaneous Triggering of Traps


    Season 4 results

    Took a weird list against morts yesterday and did not care for it even though I pulled it out. Grange, buckwheat, jack, bushel, windle, and tater. Really missed ploughman and the extra harvest markers/ control of rough ground. Ended the game with 1 goal and 2 take outs with 4 clock points. Felt dirty but with all my HP and the high risk of the goal run, I decided to use the clock to my benefit. How is everyone else doing in S4?

    Game Plans

    1-according to the errata ". Get Back In There. Replace the text of this card with: ‘Friendly models that return to the pitch in the Maintenance Phase gain +2"/+2" MOV.’" Does this mean that models only receive the +2/+2 benefit during the maintenance phase? 2- Also, If you do not go first after playing lone striker, does your first model still get the -1 tac penalty? (We thought no but wanted to finally get a definitive answer.)

    Season 4 results

    I find that with Jackstraw and Bushel on the field the 2-2 game is much more reasonable so maybe that is the way to go against those tough teams. I really like how farmers are playing right now.

    Speed buff in S4

    Learning where to kickoff at, to either apply pressure or, make it very difficult to score turn one is part of getting better as a player. A lot of people in my meta drop the ball over the midline and choose to apply pressure on kickoff. Several metas around us corner kick and play keep away for the first 2 turns. Knowing that your opponent has to burn 3-4 influence and might have to make a dodge in order to get into scoring range is important. If you receive, knowing your own guilds weakness and where they might kick too will help determine how to line up your models. I love the changes to season 4 and it makes me think that there is still room to grow.

    S4 And the Joy of Brewers

    Anyone plan on trying a 3 goal brewers team? Thinking Esters, Scum, Vet Deci, Vet Spig, Friday, and Mash. It might end up more of a 2-2 game but I feel like using mash as a sniper to hit either spigot or friday as turrets.

    When do we take Mataagi over Minerva?

    Mataagi has a 12 inch walk threat to trigger harrier using hot shot or snap fire for bleed all with one inf

    Constructing your new Hunter 10.

    Minor guild members are "friendly guild"

    Constructing your new Hunter 10.

    I think if i were to try hunters at this point it would be with Theron, Skatha, Fahad, Jacear, oHearne, vet minx, egret, seenah, mataagi, (Zarola, Minerva, vHearne) what do the fine people here think?

    Constructing your new Hunter 10.

    @Breaking_Play can you explain why Minerva over Mataagi for you? Our Meta is split down the middle of your line-up but the last slot is either of the falconers. I would love to hear other peoples reasoning.

    Newbie at Tourney

    tooled up means non-momentous 2 on a single hit meaning 14 damage on average

    Most 'direct' Team

    For me, I feel like a shark team is the most direct. Need the ball to win, but play on the edges to get push off VP's.

    Best "Killy" Teams?

    I would say the teams that rely on 4-1 games or even 6-0 teams would be farmers and Rage Union. Brewers can score goals like crazy and butchers are really good for fast 2-2 games (Fillet normally). Farmers, in my experience have been very dependent on kill the ball and kill you, THEN score the last goal.

    Who to Drop?

    Feel like the alchs convo kind of got us off topic but, I'd like to continue it anyways. Best case scenario is receive and score turn one, right? But with who, Bonesaw is a really bad drop into alchs for the reasons mentioned above. Once we solve that puzzle then smoke has the ball after rats score. Now she and her team blast whoever is in range for a turn putting out decent damage and conditions. Turn 2 is legendary and condition turn, followed by a Vet Kat charge somewhere. If Kat gets the witness me that puts the score 6-4 Rats. At this point, Rats need a goal bad, If smoke has already gone then great, go get the ball using Pipers heroic and haunting melody. 2 goals and a takeout (with Kat offing himself) should be doable. But again that is best case scenario. If you kick, I don't see how piper and co. make it into their lines without dying. I hear the fast and aggressive approach, I just want a little more detail to go with it. Having tried this 3 times now it doesn't add up.

    Who to Drop?

    So what is you 6? Having 2 games into them and having to work my ass off for any points is really an uphill battle.

    Who to Drop?

    For me it is always matchup dependent like you said. Smoke is the absolute worst for us because of the auto damage and hard to clear so I usually don't bring disease that matchup. Esters is the same type of situation but I still bring Scourge because I feel like I need some type of damage output. Skulk normally stays in for my goal oriented teams because of a low momentous double dodge, allowing him to bounce between models and build up enough for a bonus time. I am still trying to build a solid 6 but every time i play a new team it causes me to switch up. Played graves2, bonesaw, scourge, and skulk into esters, dog, spig1, vet deci, stoker, and pint pot last night and got 2 goals plus a snack-digger take-out on decimate. Opponent hide the ball very well and made life difficult so had to get drastic. Rats are a very fun group but also very difficult to choose and will punish you for wrong choices.

    Spring fling report

    So over the weekend I had the opportunity to play in Spring Fling 2018 at Huzzah Hobbies ( http://longshanks.org/events/?event=669 ). I decided to take my trusty blacksmiths and see if I couldn't shock the world! Round 1- Evan Miller- Corsair, tenticles, gutter, sakana, siren1, hag vs Ferrite, iron, hearth, alloy, Furnace, cast. To help explain this game, I need to explain that there was very little terrain to hide behind as well as I kicked off. I tried to set up pieces around the only obstruction that I had access too and fan out after kicking off. Fishers reel and passing dodges gets corsair into position to drag furnace past the wall I tried caddie cornering. This led to him winning the momentum race and going first 2nd round. This allowed gutter to activate with a full stack and kill Furnace, however this gave me an opportunity to get the ball with Iron and score. After some more scruming and re-positioning for the ball he puts one in to go to 6-4. With an immediate snap back I get it to 8-6 with an opportunity to tie the momentum race knowing he had already played one 7 and still having grudge match for 6. Really bad dice roll on my last attack against gutter caused me to be down and out of fear of the roll off (giving corsair access to singled out with the ball) meant that I had to be conservative. He wins the initiative and activates corasir and slightly spikes to get the 6 point activation. Walked away from this one shaking my head, not sure what I could have done different but round 1 losses are tough. My opponent played very well and clean making it very hard to close out the game. Round 2- Andy Kaiser- Hammer, armadillo, brick, mallet, flint, chisel vs Ferrite, iron, farris, bolt, hearth alloy I received this game and made sure to stay outside of 10 of hammer and passed the ball around while quick footing bolt. Brick did a good job of causing counter charge problems for my opening turn goal but luckily when I passed to bolt he dodged, was able to take tutelage, kicked to ferrite, walk into engagement with Brick, use "i'm open" dodge off the pass and then shoot on goal. The ball goes hammer who kicks to flint to end the 1st turn. Start of 2 he scores with flint, and I snapback with ferrite after legendary on most of the team. Score is 8-4 but the ball gets kicked off to my left where Alloy and hearth are hanging out. Hammer activates picks up the ball and kills alloy. (8-6) So now hammer has the ball and is in walking distance of 2 models and the goal. I need to end this game quickly. Farris takes a full stack and goes to work on chisel who has already gone crazy on bolt. Farris knocks down and staggers and puts some more damage on her. Bolts shoemerangers her for extra damage and walks to be in a good spot. Start of turn 3, he wins initiative and goes with mallet, singling out hearth and putting 6 damage on her. Hearth goes next with 2 influence and engages hammer at 2 inches, while staying out of mallets 2, but crowded out by the rollerball. first swing on hammer to try and KD him in one and then heal.... whiff. Attempt to also whiffs and leaves hearth on 17, and hammer still in possession of the ball. I know have to hope that I have positioned well enough to not give up the 6 point activation. Hammer goes and takes every attack to kill hearth, and then dropps the ball to the armadillo. Bolt goes and kills chisel 10-6 and gets a free shoemerang to KD mallet. The roller ball goes and places the ball next to my goal outside of alloys threat and irons but easily inside flints range. My only option is to take a fully loaded Iron and kill a 16 health knocked down, single crowd out Mallet. Walked outside of Bricks engagement took the KD and push and stood up. Bonus Time on every swing allowed for two 1's per roll and I needed every one of them. 4 damage 4 times being just enough to kill the old man. Great game and came down to the wire! Round 3- Joe McCormick- Ballista, mother, hoist, velocity, compound, ratchet vs Ferrite, iron, farris, bolt, hearth alloy Same start as last game, I was able to instead of using the free "i'm open," dodge when receiving the ball with bolt and then jog just outside of counter charge range sprint to engage, shoemerang myself to KD compound, and score a goal. He made a good play by putting up horrific odor but with quickfoot, Bolt's efficiency is unreal. (I do feel bad at this point because my opponent did not know the interactions with shoemerange and targeting self which really threw him off for the rest of the game) Ball comes out on my left side (where farris and Ferrite were) He activates velocity to pick up the ball and walk towards the fast ground. He wins initiative and goes first, scoring with velocity, immediate snapback with legendaried ferrite, which he immediately scores back with Ballista. After the game we talked about what could have happened if he had held the ball on hoist in cover, it would have made an interesting game. Instead, I kick the ball out to farris and sprint to kick to bolt for the snapshot win. My line-up loves a good goal scoring race and unfortunately for my opponent that's what the game turned into. Still a good game and lots of fun! 4th Round Alex Botts- Fillet,Princess, boiler, boar, meathook, decimate vs Ferrite, iron, farris, bolt, hearth alloy So playing the World Champ is always a fun experience and I decided to drop my Burnish gameplan in favor of my 3-0 team. Probably a mistake but hey, when playing the best, throw the playbook out the window. I am a little surprised by the Fillet pick but stick with my guns and draft my normal 3-0 list. I kick off with alloy and set him up with Hearth giving instruction (Had I given both it would have made life easier). After decimate retrieves a easy scatter and boar charges to get in the way, I feel like I can get the ball and take a 2 dice shot. After measuring everything out and getting unengaged I make my tackle and go to shoot. Opps! meathook and Fillet are in the ball path so 1 dice needing a 4. Failed the goal and the ball shoots the gap to the other side and behind his goal line. I know the game is over at this point, I just do not want to get blanked so I take bolt and get the ball after taking a beating from Boar and put one in the net and concede. I told Alex that I should have given him a better game but in reality I liked taking that chance even at 1 dice kick to potentially put him in a really bad place. I will definitely have to practice with kicking teams more often as I went 1-2 when kicking and 3-0 when receiving. Very good opponent and made me pay for a high risk attempt. 5th Round Arthur Washburne- VetRage, Strongbox, Benediction, Gutter, Mist, Decimate vs Burnish, Cast, Hearth, Alloy, Furnace, Iron (This one is incorrect on longshanks) The start of day 2 and I am determined to play Burnish as my Captain no matter what! Arthur and I start setting up and talking before I realize that he is playing Union and I almost loose my never and play Ferrite but stop myself last second. I choose to receive and fetch the ball with alloy kicking back to iron in my back left corner, dodging away from Mist. After some positioning and other quick tooled up on Burnish, Benediction activates and with second wind moves up close to the midfield next to mist. Well, now seems like a good time for flame belch so I shoot 3 of them into Mist and Bene hitting bene all 3 and mist once. We start the second round and I go with furnace, tool up cast, walk into engage bene and do mom 1 dmg, searing strike, and fire. He heals Bene and moves some models around. Cast comes in like a freight train and destroys Bene with an influence to spare. Iron charges mist and gets and absurd number of hits killing him with a mom 7 damage. Hearth gets double teamed by decimate and rage and melts under the assault. The turn continues with some positioning and arranging for the next round. Alloy gets taken out and ties the game at 4-4, I get a little foggy at this point but I end up taking out the turtle and scoring a goal and he takes out iron. The ball is on mist on the far right, and rage is setup to take out alloy who has returned and retrieved the ball previously to score. I see that it will take me 3 activations to get the final 3 points and it will take him 3 as well, but I get the first go. Furnace tools up cast and walks base with benediction swings and doing searing strike 1 damage (he had healed to full) and fire. Then gets pushed to 2 inches on the counter, finally knocking bene down before ending his turn. Gutter goes and engages alloy and chain grabs hearth for some serious death threats by rage. cast goes and erases bene again putting me to 11. At this point rage goes and murders alloy which I let happen instead of spending momentum, so I could bonus time my last activation. Strongbox had come back on on the corner and had just managed to get within sprint and flame belch range of burnish. Lucky enough, he comes back on with 4HP and with 2 bonus timed shoots killed the turtle putting me to 12 with Mist waiting to score in the wings. Another great game and a really fun opponent. Round 6- Stevan Meisoll- Tapper, scum, hooper, spig1, harry, pintpot, vs Ferrite, iron, farris, bolt, hearth alloy Stevan is a NC guy who I have had the privilege of playing a few times now and his brewers are always a good time. I received and set up the bolt turn 1 goal after passing down the line and a quick foot. The ball comes out and he hides it on harry near the back.

    Veteran Cinder

    Hadn't thought about that yet, opens up the design space a little

    Veteran Cinder

    Really hoping for an all around Master as well with guild wide buff. However that seems unlikely as creating 7 possible captains seems a bit daunting in terms of balance (6 real captains, we all know farris isn't one)

    Butchers problems

    If I am playing as a butcher, I am dropping Ox in order to get the kills. Ox has a hard time against Grange in my experience so I feel Grange is the better drop.