blueboyzcaptain

Hoist disarms. Harriet needs to be on the pitch to allow it though.

Hot take, disarm is way better than sucker punch. The 4 inch free punch is only relevant turn one unless you take ballista. So in reality ballista makes it important not the other way around. I'd take Harriet for disarm and good stats plus hat aura over sucker punch any day.

The ball path is measured from the ball due to the wording from the character play. Interception uses the ball path for its rule.

So in the linked thread it appears that Locus cannot intercept his own pass and after sufficient prodding I felt it necessary to ask how the lawyers view this?

I doubt if asked they wouldn't rule it that he could intercept. Good catch though. Locus is good at ball killing against strikers with a kd on1. Otherwise not that great

I think that's definitely an overexaggeration in how strong it is. At best it ruins a few matchups that have squishy models and no answers to hoist. I do agree it's a bit too strong though, but I can't decide if I'd want true rep changed or OPT added to the character play.

I'd be amazed if you gave harriet 4 inf

From collected clarifications: Momentous Inspiration:- Generates a single point of Momentum when a Character Play TN test successfully hits (i.e. the TN test is required and must be rolled).Triggers on hits when using a Character Play that has a damage component, does not need the damage to actually occur (e.g. if negated by Tough Hide).The MP is gained after the play has been fully resolved.

You don't get the mom if you trigger it off the playbook from ballista's aura

The active model decides the order in the case of traps of different types as concerns with effects like reanimate correct?

A lot of us play engineers very differently, and some of the models have different weaknesses and strengths based on our own lineup more than the opponents. I'll give it a go though. Hoist. Hoist is not that great on paper. He's a slower velocity that just doesn't die without an entire teams worth of influence put into him. He really shines with teamwork and his one character play, true rep. Whether you want to go all striker by stealing burrow from mother or acrobatic from velocity, or maybe be cagey and dangle him infront of your opponent and throw blast earths, you can't go wrong as long as you plan your game around him and don't overextend him (or do, he just wont accomplish anything after that) Good into: yes // risky into: poor positioning. Mother Mother can sprint 7. Then place a marker 4 inches away. From this point, you add the base size and choose your options. Grab a free ball base size +2 inches away from the marker for a ~14 threat on a free ball. Burrow to the marker for a 11+30mm base + 40mm base +4 inch kick threat on goal (about 17.75 inches). Or just leave markers on the field and have hoist teleport like houdini. Really as long as you know your ranges and threats from models and goals, there isn't a wrong play besides being out of range. Good into: playing the game // risky into: seeing mainspring on the field instead Mainspring The only bad part of mainspring is that he's not mother. This mascot handles the ball like no other between a 6/8 move, free pass with 3 dice as well as free long bomb, he enables snapshots for days. As long as you have the ball. Bad part is the opponent also wants the ball so he only ever sees it once, maybe twice a game and its not super easy to turn that into goals when he's supposed to be efficient meaning no inf given to make any shots forcing you to have a snapshot turret ready to go. Also is not mother. sadness. Good into: receiving // Risky into: not being mother Ratchet Ratchet is the mechanic your mechanic wishes he could be. No robot wants to enter the pitch without a checkup from this guy. His biggest weakness is the other team in all scenarios. 3/1 1 inch melee with no double reposition outside the unattainable 5th column with 5 tac? he screams please punch me I'm starting to like it. Upside is he is the most efficient player on your team. Free condition removal for mechanica, tooled up, heroic for a free sprint/charge on mechanica models, heck even longbomb for the surprise snapshot goals from way downtown where he belongs. Giving him 1 inf for tooled up or 4 for blast earths with Ballista (or pin vice, doesn't matter) isn't even that bad an idea, especially on turn 1. Just don't let the opponent touch him without your consent and he'll fix your team right up. Good into: Playing the game // Risky into: poor positioning. Compound Compounds greatest strength is being really hard to touch for your opponent. A lot of good ranged control effects require direct targetting, meaning gluttunous mass protects the counter charge aura from being turned off without a model physically blocking him. This is great for a guild like engineers who are capable of sitting back and abusing the countercharge aura to force the opponent to commit poorly while throwing ranged character plays at will. He is even great when the brawl starts as any model trying to escape him risks a knockdown unless they buy two attacks to knockdown/push/dodge away. He doesn die easily to a concentrated effort, so don't overextend him into a setup beater without a safety net. Memory is his worst foe due to dodging, but not unplayable into. Good into: Playing around him // Risky into: poor positioning/brainpan and memory

Ballista is used in many ways. The most common is control and area denial. Whether kicking or receiving, dead bolt shuts down the opponent turn one if it hits. Minefield and Second wind add onto this concept. Momentum is key to heal chip damage and remove conditions, but you need the ball or someone to hit to do this. Ballista makes the engagement impossible or costly beyond worth for the opponent in well planned circumstances. I will say, after the OPD change I have been playing Pin Vice a lot and have great fun with her, but I almost always pick ballista if I'm kicking to prevent the turn one goal. I do have great fun receiving with pin vice and either scoring with mother or killing their pressure model with tooled overclocked deletion. In general baliista wants ratchet hoist velocity, with compound for complete area denial or your pick of colossus for greater pressure on a key model/bully in an area or salvo for team 3-0 dream. Some people have luck with locus, but I can't see the benefits, and I've been walking away from union since the minor guilds release. I have had some scenarios where I don't take either velocity or hoist, but those a specific games where I was testing a strategy against a lineup. Side note though, with Pinvice she can go anywhere from 6-0 to 3-0, the other scorelines in the middle easily as approachable. Ballista meanwhile, like you said, just doesn't do as much damage, so wants to go for anything other than 6-0, most often 2-2, but can be 1-4, 3-0 if things go that way.

It's possible for Thresher to stand in a way to engage brick and granite while being out of line of sight of marbles in this picture. Something to keep in mind.

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way :/

*wall of text warning* Generally it's ill advised to use either captain for goal scoring on turn one, they do much more getting the 2nd goal/getting us to 8 points. This is due to the fact that the legendaries are considered a free goal to take whenever, so using it on turn one when receiving which in 80% of games you can get the goal with any other striker isn't a good use of the resource. Pin vice kicking is fine, but consider ballista if your initial plan is a gun line, not having the ball isn't an issue when you have momentous inspiration. Good strikers for scoring turn one when receiving include Mother, Hoist(with mother), Velocity, Pin Vice(without legendary), Salvo(with knee slider since he is squishy). Any other model "could" score if you have Pin Vice, but that involves either alternator or her legendary, maybe heroic if non-mechanica, and possibly controller to stop counterplay. As for tips for the gunline itself? Just make sure you wont get engaged until well into turn 2. This isn't possible against most teams, especially farmers unless they run grange. Something to consider, Use Compound to deny threat if you are trying to be cagey. Even 2 inch melee models cant go after your guys if they are 2 inches deep in his CC zone. This doesn't work against Morts due to shenanigans unless they dont take BPM. We have a really good matchup into hunters IMO. The best strategy I have come up with is to just go all striker all the time. Theron can only shut down one, maybe two strikers. We can have a team of 5-6 strikers if we want. They have no ball killing, just opponent control tactics. We punish them hard if they cant score after any time we score. Even if they score first. Ballista is always the captain of choice into them kick or receive, deadbolting whoever has the ball or theron if he has no momentum to stand him up. Note: Something to keep in mind when going all strikers. Generally best to do when receiving. Generate a mom with a pass, then pass to velocity and dodge her up or deadbolt theron. If deadbolt hits easy game easy life. If it misses, dodging her up sooner forces theron to activate next or give you a chance to score. If Theron hits pinned/snipe then pass to a different striker and dodge that one up and score with that one. When kicking the Gunline Strategy works wonders against hunters. Between tough hide and reanimate and mom inspiration, we force them to walk into us, which is what ballista loves. If they bring Egret, make it a point to never let two models get hit by one flurry. Masons is tough to explain, I personally think Pin Vice is the captain of choice, so having her ber support on kickoff and just throwing blast earths for 2 turns straight seems ideal, but unsure about consistency. Receiving she is definitely better though. Masons have no ranged game, so threatening a goal while loading pin vice up and just waiting for a model to come close and deleting it with her is always the game plan. With the ball she outthreats all of their players all the time. They generally also take at least one or two squishy models that she can prey on for the whole game. Gun line works well until pin vice can do what she does best. Velocity is a must pick due to flint/harmony/hammer. T>> is way too good. I'll get back to you on farmers, nothing is consistent. Thresher appears to be a bad matchup for us, so get lucky. Grange we can abuse with our >< models, so just go all scoring. Fallow cant do shenanigans if we don't deal damage. Pin vice is probably best into both, but don't quote me on that, I need more practice to say for sure. Gun line doesn't really do much due to harrow. Between that and the fact Thresher outthreats us with his tater CC zone and millstone fun time aura, deadbolt doesn't do much and at best after turn one we can put out 10-11 dmg at range. This is technically a lot of damage, but that's if they all hit and they sit there and take it. There's nothing stopping them from just walking away and setting up for turn two where they go second and use the free mom to easily walk through our barrage unscathed. Velocity is a good staple into all 3 of these teams. Ratchet and Hoist can also get work done, although unsure about lineup into farmers as said before. Compound does a lot against hunters and masons, not so much against farmers, but then again most of our players dont do much against farmers. Colossus "can" do good against hunters, but he can easily become a free kill to jaecar+theron. Good pick into masons, strat dependant against farmers. Salvo is good into hunters if you're going for the all striker lineup, otherwise pick any other player. Same into masons, unsure into farmers. No locus or VVelocity. Sorry, they just arn't good enough. Mother over mainspring.