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Huzzah Spring Fling - May 20th & 21st, 2017

The largest individual US tournament is returning for its second year in the Northern VA area.  This year we're pushed back a bit, but still in the spring. May 20th is the date, here are the details:

Guild Ball Spring Fling

Presented by Bill Anderson

Basics:

Event Intent:  This is intended to be a sanctioned 64 person Guild Ball tournament.

Event Location:

Huzzah Hobbies

44927 George Washington Blvd, Ste.135

Ashburn, VA 20147

(703) 466-0460

Registration: $20

            Pre-Registration can be sent via paypal: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=FBKZMKYGY2ACE

            Registration can be viewed on Tiebreak: https://www.tiebreak.co.uk/huzzah-spring-fling-2017/feed

Tournament Date: May 20th & 21st, 2017

Tournament slots: 64 players

Tournament Time:

16 – 32 players

 

33 – 64 players

 

5 round tournament

6 round tournament

 

Registration: 10:00am – 10:30am

 

Registration: 10:00am – 10:30am

 

Saturday Round 1: 10:30am – 12:10pm

 

Saturday Round 1: 10:30am – 12:10pm

 

Lunch: 12:10pm – 1:00pm

 

Lunch: 12:10pm – 1:30pm

 

Saturday Round 2: 1:00pm – 2:40pm

 

Saturday Round 2: 1:30pm – 3:10pm

 

Saturday Round 3: 2:50pm – 4:30pm

 

Saturday Round 3: 3:25pm – 5:05pm

 

Saturday Round 4: 4:45pm – 6:25pm

 

Saturday Round 4: 5:20pm – 7:00pm

 

Saturday Round 5: 6:35pm – 8:15pm

 

Sunday Round 5: 12:30pm – 2:10pm

 

Awards: 8:30pm

 

Sunday Round 6: 2:25pm – 4:05pm

 

 

 

Awards: 4:30pm

 

Tournament Format: Regional Cup

Appearance Standard: All models in play must be fully assembled, on appropriately sized bases, painted, and based.

Proxy Rule:  Judge pre-approved proxies are permitted.

Full Tournament pack available here: http://gamerslounge.coda.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Huzzah-Spring-Fling-2017.pdf

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Hey all,

I want ant to toss out an idea to get feedback. I'm considering alternatives to random 1st round pairings and would like feedback on this idea.

I'm considering using a combination of 1st round seeding and "Dutch style" Swiss pairings for the first round. I'd seed all players based on their current Black Orifice guild ball ranking. Then I'd pair the first round by splitting the field in half and pairing TP/TP. 

basically, if 10 people show up it'd be 1st ranked plays 6th ranked, 2nd plays 7th, etc.

my goal is:
1. At the end of the day the top table will be the 2 best players on the day
2. Each round will match players of similar skill with an increasing challenge.
3. First round pairing will directly lead to 2nd round brackets of similar skill level.

we'll still be using TP/VP/VPD for pairing and end of day placing. I'll be using the same "Dutch style" Swiss for pairings round 2+.

please share your feedback on the first round proposal.

thanks!

Bill

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I really liked how at the Fall Brawl no one was paired against someone from the same local club in neither the first round, nor as luck enabled, the second round.

I don't particularly like the idea of someone's tournament ranking affecting whom they are matched against in the first round.  In particular, it seems arbitrary that the person just above the mean is matched against the worst player and the player just bellow it is matched against the best player.  Obviously if the first round is random someone has to play the best and worst player but deliberately selecting someone for those tables based on their past performance seems a lot more spiteful.

Wanting the top table in the final round to be the two best players at the event is a noble goal, but I don't find this method of guiding the event towards it appealing.

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24 minutes ago, MechMage said:

I really liked how at the Fall Brawl no one was paired against someone from the same local club in neither the first round, nor as luck enabled, the second round.

Heh, luck.

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11 hours ago, MechMage said:

I really liked how at the Fall Brawl no one was paired against someone from the same local club in neither the first round, nor as luck enabled, the second round.

I don't particularly like the idea of someone's tournament ranking affecting whom they are matched against in the first round.  In particular, it seems arbitrary that the person just above the mean is matched against the worst player and the player just bellow it is matched against the best player.  Obviously if the first round is random someone has to play the best and worst player but deliberately selecting someone for those tables based on their past performance seems a lot more spiteful.

Wanting the top table in the final round to be the two best players at the event is a noble goal, but I don't find this method of guiding the event towards it appealing.

I appreciate the feedback, although the idea of pairing like this being "spiteful" surprises me. I actually thought it was a more reliable way to generate a solid match opposed to randomly pairing people up.

Two follow on questions:

- do you believe this system also fails to reach my #2 objective?

- are you looking at the pairing methodology as a whole or the first round methodology of seeding when you mention your distaste?

 

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Everything I said was in regard to the first round only.  I honestly don't have a clear picture of how the second round match up will work beyond winners will be paired against other winners.  With that in mind, I can't comment how I'd expect the later rounds to look.

I don't particularly dislike the seeding method overall, I just find the edge case were the player who is paired against the best player in the first round is ranking adjacent to the player who is paired against the worst player.  It seems like for those two players a small difference in ranking made a big difference in the ease of the first round, with one being set up to win and the other being set up to lose.

But like I said in my first post, I don't have a better system to propose so I don't have any useful advice, just a gut reaction.

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Pretty sure for "Sunday Round 5" you mean "12:30pm - 2:10pm," unless you really are having a 14-hour game that starts at midnight :)

Anyways, Ashburn isn't far from Silver Spring. If I get my stuff painted (and the wife ok's it) I'll do my best to make it down.

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6 minutes ago, TehMik said:

Pretty sure for "Sunday Round 5" you mean "12:30pm - 2:10pm," unless you really are having a 14-hour game that starts at midnight :)

Anyways, Ashburn isn't far from Silver Spring. If I get my stuff painted (and the wife ok's it) I'll do my best to make it down.

That was the 14 hour clock "relaxed" round..... 

 

fixed, hope to see you there!

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People really need to show up for this tournament.  Bill is a generous host and does a fantastic job with the micro managing that is involved with such a large event.  The group of guys in the area are just top notch being friendly yet competitive gamers throughout.  I just can't say enough about the fun I've had personally attending numerous tournaments with the Capital Guild Ball group.

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Thanks, that's incredibly kind of you!

I'm excited to be compiling the first round of new and returning sponsors for this year. Wow are things looking incredible. Announcements will be coming later this week.

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Got some new information incoming. One of the ideas being embraced at the Spring Fling 2017 is a side event for Significant Others. Often we, as gamers, find ourselves being pressured to not attend events because our Significant others do not play. The answer is the Spring Fling Spa day.

Facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/events/166584990515230/

While the gamers are playing Guild Ball, the SO's will be off at a spa then lunch with the group. Here's some details.
Spa - Bella Beach Nail Spa, Ashburn VA
Lunch - MOD Pizza

Classic Package: $60
includes: classic manicure, classic pedicure, either (Mod pizza or Mod Salad) and Drink.

Gel Package: $90
includes: Classic pedicure, Gel manicure, either (Mod pizza or Mod Salad) and Drink.

Rides will be coordinated among the group who are going.

If you're SO is interested, make sure you're signed up to attend the Spring Fling and have your SO indicate they'll be "going" on the Facebook event (link above).

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